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[Cob] cob/straw bale sandwich wallBill Christensen billc_lists at greenbuilder.comMon Jul 21 17:23:16 CDT 2008
At 11:05 AM +0200 7/21/08, Robert Alcock wrote: >We are looking at using a load-bearing hybrid straw-bale/cob wall >consisting of straw bales laid on edge (35cm thick) with cob either side >(10cm interior and 5cm exterior). We plan to pour a concrete bond beam >at first floor and roof level of this two storey, 100m2 per floor, house >and study centre. > >Does anyone on the group have experience with this "sandwich" type of >wall construction? > >Is it better to put up the straw bale wall first, put in the bond beam >and roof/floor beams, and then do the cob? The advantage of getting the >roof on quickly is obvious, but then I'm concerned that the straw bales >alone won't be strong enough to hold the roof. Unless your bales are extremely loose they should hold up the roof just fine - assuming that everything is well braced against lateral movement. I can think of at least one house that wasn't and the whole thing twisted and racked a fair bit, which isn't easy to repair. In fact, you'll want the bales pre-compressed before you begin cobbing to prevent cracks from settling. That weight will also stiffen the bale wall considerably, reducing any wobbliness and making it easier to cob against. > >If the cob and straw bale go up together in parallel, the bales will be >exposed to the weather for a lot longer (at least, the top of the straw >bale wall will be) and we get rain regularly here, even in summer. > >In this case, on the other hand, we need to think about what will happen >to the dry cob and straw bales when the load of the (green) roof and >soil are applied - since dry cob is virtually incompressible it will be >taking the whole load of the roof on its own, without the straw bales >helping. The general theory is that it's the plaster that's carrying most of the weight in plastered strawbale construction. See discussions on the SB-R-Us list at yahoo groups for more details. I'd tend toward building the bales and roof first, then cobbing after. I'd also suggest spraying a clay slip on the straw before cobbing to help adhere the two materials and to insure that your cobbing doesn't leave any air gaps with un-mudded straw. > >A compromise would be to build one storey of straw bale, pour the >concrete bond beam, then apply the cob up to that height, relying on the >weather protection offered by the concrete, and also the preloading that >the concrete (+possibly roof/floor beams) provide. > >Any other guidance would be most welcome. > >Thanks a lot, > >Robert >www.lesspress.com > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Coblist mailing list >Coblist at deatech.com >http://www.deatech.com/mailman/listinfo/coblist -- Bill Christensen <http://greenbuilder.com/contact/> Green Building Professionals Directory: <http://directory.greenbuilder.com> Sustainable Building Calendar: <http://www.greenbuilder.com/calendar/> Green Real Estate: <http://www.greenbuilder.com/realestate/> Straw Bale Registry: <http://sbregistry.greenbuilder.com/> Books/videos/software: <http://bookstore.greenbuilder.com/>
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