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[Cob] cob/straw bale sandwich wallHenry Raduazo raduazo at cox.netMon Jul 21 12:58:21 CDT 2008
Robert: I have done it both ways. For a really small structure I prefer to put up the straw bale wall first and then build cob up against it. Normally I would just put a thick earth plaster on the outside and put a load bearing 8 inches of cob on the inside to act as heat storage, support and stabilizing wall. I have found that when placing really wet cob up against a straw bale wall the cob tends to fall away from the wall during the drying process so I recommend that if you are doing wet cob, place dead man anchors between the straw bale and cob to hold the cob in place. I have pictures if you are interested and if you have high speed internet. Ed On Jul 21, 2008, at 5:05 AM, Robert Alcock wrote: > Hi group, > > As you may recall, we have built a small cob cabin (Snail Cabin) > here in > northern Spain and we are now starting work on a larger building. > > We are looking at using a load-bearing hybrid straw-bale/cob wall > consisting of straw bales laid on edge (35cm thick) with cob either > side > (10cm interior and 5cm exterior). We plan to pour a concrete bond beam > at first floor and roof level of this two storey, 100m2 per floor, > house > and study centre. > > Does anyone on the group have experience with this "sandwich" type of > wall construction? > > Is it better to put up the straw bale wall first, put in the bond beam > and roof/floor beams, and then do the cob? The advantage of getting > the > roof on quickly is obvious, but then I'm concerned that the straw > bales > alone won't be strong enough to hold the roof. > > If the cob and straw bale go up together in parallel, the bales > will be > exposed to the weather for a lot longer (at least, the top of the > straw > bale wall will be) and we get rain regularly here, even in summer. > > In this case, on the other hand, we need to think about what will > happen > to the dry cob and straw bales when the load of the (green) roof and > soil are applied - since dry cob is virtually incompressible it > will be > taking the whole load of the roof on its own, without the straw bales > helping. > > A compromise would be to build one storey of straw bale, pour the > concrete bond beam, then apply the cob up to that height, relying > on the > weather protection offered by the concrete, and also the preloading > that > the concrete (+possibly roof/floor beams) provide. > > Any other guidance would be most welcome. > > Thanks a lot, > > Robert > www.lesspress.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Coblist mailing list > Coblist at deatech.com > http://www.deatech.com/mailman/listinfo/coblist
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