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Cob: RE: Re: RE: earthen oven in Guatemala type house.Patrick Newberry PNewberry at HFHI.orgMon Nov 11 09:38:01 CST 2002
That is in the plans (contacting the Guatamalan Affilate) Sorry about the dig on stick builders...old habits die hard :-) -----Original Message----- From: Frances Grill [mailto:grill at vtc.net] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 8:06 AM To: coblist at deatech.com Subject: Cob: Re: RE: earthen oven in Guatemala type house. Greetings, I suppose I could join in with some ideas for Patrick from Africa or Brazil or some other place that is NOT Guatamala, but ,even though he wants to "show these dang stick builders just what can be done with cob", as I quote below, he was given the mandate to build an authentic earthen oven as would be used in a traditonal home in Guatamala. So why not contact a Guatamalan or even someone from Chiapas or elsewhere in Southern Mexico or at least Central America for an authentic design that reflects the cultural reality of it's origin. As Darel or anyone who has lived outside of their birth culture knows, there are reasons for certain types of building designs and structures being used. It would seem the point of authenticity is to reveal a part of a culture not seen by non-Guatamalans. Presumably, the purpose is not to put stick builders in their place . Having eaten beans from a Guatamalan stove, I can testify that they work as fine as any Lorenus, Japanese, East Indian or any other fine stove and are amazingly authentic. PAZ, Pedro -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Newberry < PNewberry at HFHI.org> To: coblist at deatech.com < coblist at deatech.com> Date: Friday, November 08, 2002 2:48 PM Subject: Cob: RE: earthen oven in Guatemala type house. Well I Need some advice. Does any one have any idea of what type of earthen oven would be an authentic earthen oven that I can build inside this house.like some authenticity. Please help with your ideas so that we can show these dang stick builders just what all can be done with earth / cob. L&L Pat Newberry www.gypsyfarm.com -------------- next part -------------- <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#b8b8b8> <DIV><SPAN class=985433615-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>That is in the plans (contacting the Guatamalan Affilate) </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=985433615-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Sorry about the dig on stick builders...old habits die hard :-)</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=985433615-11112002></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=985433615-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Frances Grill [mailto:grill at vtc.net]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 11, 2002 8:06 AM<BR><B>To:</B> coblist at deatech.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Cob: Re: RE: earthen oven in Guatemala type house. <BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Greetings, I suppose I could join in with some ideas for Patrick from Africa or Brazil or some other place that is NOT Guatamala, but ,even though he wants to "show these dang stick builders just what can be done with cob", as I quote below, he was given the mandate to build an authentic earthen oven as would be used in a traditonal home in Guatamala. So why not contact a Guatamalan or even someone from Chiapas or elsewhere in Southern Mexico or at least Central America for an authentic design that reflects the cultural reality of it's origin. As Darel or anyone who has lived outside of their birth culture knows, there are reasons for certain types of building designs and structures being used</FONT>.<FONT size=2> It would seem the point of authenticity is to reveal a part of a culture not seen by non-Guatamalans. Presumably, the purpose is not to put stick builders in their place . Having eaten beans from a Guatamalan stove, I can testify that they work as fine as any Lorenus, Japanese, East Indian or any other fine stove and are amazingly authentic. PAZ, Pedro</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original Message-----</B><BR><B>From: </B>Patrick Newberry <<A href="mailto:PNewberry at HFHI.org">PNewberry at HFHI.org</A>><BR><B>To: </B><A href="mailto:coblist at deatech.com">coblist at deatech.com</A> <<A href="mailto:coblist at deatech.com">coblist at deatech.com</A>><BR><B>Date: </B>Friday, November 08, 2002 2:48 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Cob: RE: earthen oven in Guatemala type house. <BR><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid"></FONT> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=827091819-08112002>Well I Need some advice.</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=827091819-08112002> Does any one </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=827091819-08112002>have any idea of what type of earthen oven would be an authentic earthen oven that I can build inside this house.</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=827091819-08112002>like some authenticity. Please help with your ideas so that we can show these dang </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=827091819-08112002>stick builders just what all can be done with earth / cob. </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=827091819-08112002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=827091819-08112002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=827091819-08112002>L&L </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=827091819-08112002>Pat Newberry </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=827091819-08112002><A href="http://www.gypsyfarm.com">www.gypsyfarm.com</A> </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=827091819-08112002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=827091819-08112002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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