Cob: Re: RE: earthen oven in Guatemala type house.

Frances Grill grill at vtc.net
Mon Nov 11 07:06:20 CST 2002 

Greetings, I suppose I could join in with some ideas for Patrick from Africa or Brazil or some other place that is NOT Guatamala, but ,even though  he wants to "show these dang stick builders just  what can be done with  cob", as I  quote below, he was given the mandate to build an authentic earthen oven as would  be used in a traditonal home in Guatamala. So why not contact a Guatamalan or even someone from Chiapas or elsewhere in Southern Mexico or at least Central America for an authentic design that reflects the cultural reality of it's origin. As Darel or anyone who has lived outside of their birth culture knows, there are reasons for certain types of building designs and structures being used. It would seem the point of authenticity is to reveal a part of a culture not seen by non-Guatamalans. Presumably, the purpose is not to put stick builders in their place . Having eaten beans from a Guatamalan stove, I can testify that they work as fine as any Lorenus, Japanese, East Indian or any other fine stove and are amazingly authentic.    PAZ, Pedro
-----Original Message-----
From: Patrick Newberry <PNewberry at HFHI.org>
To: coblist at deatech.com <coblist at deatech.com>
Date: Friday, November 08, 2002 2:48 PM
Subject: Cob: RE: earthen oven in Guatemala type house. 


    Well I Need some advice. Does any one have any idea of what type of earthen oven would be an authentic earthen oven that I can build inside this house.like some authenticity. Please help with your ideas so that we can show these dang stick builders just what all can be done with earth / cob.  
     
     
    L&L 
    Pat Newberry 
    www.gypsyfarm.com 
     
     
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Greetings, I suppose I could join in with some 
ideas for Patrick from Africa or Brazil or some other place that is NOT 
Guatamala, but ,even though  he wants to "show these dang stick 
builders just  what can be done with  cob", as I  quote 
below, he was given the mandate to build an authentic earthen oven as 
would  be used in a traditonal home in Guatamala. So why not contact a 
Guatamalan or even someone from Chiapas or elsewhere in Southern Mexico or at 
least Central America for an authentic design that reflects the cultural reality 
of it's origin. As Darel or anyone who has lived outside of their birth culture 
knows, there are reasons for certain types of building designs and structures 
being used</FONT>.<FONT size=2> It would seem the point of authenticity is to 
reveal a part of a culture not seen by non-Guatamalans. Presumably, the purpose 
is not to put stick builders in their place . Having eaten beans from a 
Guatamalan stove, I can testify that they work as fine as any Lorenus, Japanese, 
East Indian or any other fine stove and are amazingly 
authentic.    PAZ, Pedro</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original Message-----</B><BR><B>From: 
</B>Patrick Newberry <<A 
href="mailto:PNewberry at HFHI.org">PNewberry at HFHI.org</A>><BR><B>To: </B><A 
href="mailto:coblist at deatech.com">coblist at deatech.com</A> <<A 
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</B>Friday, November 08, 2002 2:48 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Cob: RE: earthen oven 
in Guatemala type house. <BR><BR></DIV>
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    class=827091819-08112002>like some authenticity. Please help with your ideas 
    so that we can show these dang </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
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    <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
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    <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
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    href="http://www.gypsyfarm.com">www.gypsyfarm.com</A> </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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