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[Cob] Ant challengesJill Hogan info at mat.org.zaFri Dec 16 10:30:32 CST 2011
Thanks for this, its wonderful On 2011/12/15 08:18 PM, alex wrote: > Older email, but just came across this interesting fact. > > Ants have been repelled from areas of gardens, by planting..... you got it, > by planting cucumber seeds. the cucs repel the ants. > > maybe one could grow cucs and lure the ants away with something that > attracts them into a new home they would love more than their old hunk of a > thermal mass; ) maybe some dark flat rocks placed on a dry clay? trying > to think now of when I've ssen ants attracted to things. maybe some kinda > sugary fruit that they like? > > Could also make a plastic lined pond near the bench where a big frog can > make matters worse for staying at "the bench"-house > > > > > On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 3:00 PM,<coblist-request at deatech.com> wrote: > >> Send Coblist mailing list submissions to >> coblist at deatech.com >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://www.deatech.com/mailman/listinfo/coblist >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> coblist-request at deatech.com >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> coblist-owner at deatech.com >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Coblist digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Ant challenges (linda royles) >> 2. Re: Ant challenges (Matthew Caswell) >> 3. Re: Ant Challenges (Mary Lou McFarland) >> 4. Enc: Ant Challenges (Alessandra) >> 5. Re: Ant Challenges (Henry Raduazo) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 09:25:53 +0000 >> From: linda royles<linda.royles at me.com> >> To: William Milmoe<wmilmoe at gmail.com> >> Cc: "coblist at deatech.com"<coblist at deatech.com> >> Subject: Re: [Cob] Ant challenges >> Message-ID:<AD447732-56A8-4100-B654-3D31462E2495 at me.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII >> >> Dear Bill >> >> Thanks for the question. I would also be interested to hear from anone >> with experience of ants. >> >> You have got me thinking as as we are part way through a community build >> (5.5m circular structure) here in a meadow in north London, UK, and we have >> numerous ant hills of the meadow ant (Lasius flavus), as near neighbours. >> >> Some ants - like some builders, make use of the thermal properties of >> earth. Yellow meadow ants build earth mounds to collect and store warmth >> from the sun, and to regulate the humidity of their under ground living >> quarters. I think to get to our answer, we need to find out about the ants >> in our hood and what conditions they like. >> >> Based on this email, we will be testing the ph of our ant hills - and the >> surrounding meadow which I ASSUME is acid, but it would be a smart move to >> do some top soil tests. >> >> I am thinking whether the use of lime - which is alkaline, is a good >> choice - both as a sacrificial coat on our building, and to possibly manage >> any ants with ideas of moving in. I too would like to encourage these >> amazing creatures to self build elsewhere. >> Linda Royles >> >> Cob in the Community >> T0208 3741033 >> M07971881229 >> >> >> On 19 Nov 2011, at 20:30, William Milmoe<wmilmoe at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Ant challenges >>> >>> I am interested in building with cob here in the Northwestern part of >> USA. >>> One of my friends built a cob bench a few years ago and had to do major >>> restoration this year because ants hollowed out the bench for living >>> quarters. Has anyone else had this challenge? Any modifications >> required >>> in our mostly wet then mostly dry climate to prevent ant move ins? >>> >>> Thank you so very much. >>> >>> Bill >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Coblist mailing list >>> Coblist at deatech.com >>> http://www.deatech.com/mailman/listinfo/coblist >> Linda Royles >> T0208 3741033 >> M07971881229 >> >> >> On 19 Nov 2011, at 20:30, William Milmoe<wmilmoe at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Ant challenges >>> >>> I am interested in building with cob here in the Northwestern part of >> USA. >>> One of my friends built a cob bench a few years ago and had to do major >>> restoration this year because ants hollowed out the bench for living >>> quarters. Has anyone else had this challenge? Any modifications >> required >>> in our mostly wet then mostly dry climate to prevent ant move ins? >>> >>> Thank you so very much. >>> >>> Bill >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Coblist mailing list >>> Coblist at deatech.com >>> http://www.deatech.com/mailman/listinfo/coblist >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 07:10:36 -0600 >> From: Matthew Caswell<caswellrienzo at gmail.com> >> To: linda royles<linda.royles at me.com> >> Cc: "coblist at deatech.com"<coblist at deatech.com>, William Milmoe >> <wmilmoe at gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [Cob] Ant challenges >> Message-ID:<A559D851-1F64-4760-8B40-3018F29CC6A6 at gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> One thing I've done with ants is put a screen in the cob with holes too >> small for ants but big enough for the clay to cling. >> >> El Nov 21, 2011, a las 3:25 AM, linda royles<linda.royles at me.com> >> escribi?: >> >>> Dear Bill >>> >>> Thanks for the question. I would also be interested to hear from anone >> with experience of ants. >>> You have got me thinking as as we are part way through a community build >> (5.5m circular structure) here in a meadow in north London, UK, and we have >> numerous ant hills of the meadow ant (Lasius flavus), as near neighbours. >>> Some ants - like some builders, make use of the thermal properties of >> earth. Yellow meadow ants build earth mounds to collect and store warmth >> from the sun, and to regulate the humidity of their under ground living >> quarters. I think to get to our answer, we need to find out about the ants >> in our hood and what conditions they like. >>> Based on this email, we will be testing the ph of our ant hills - and >> the surrounding meadow which I ASSUME is acid, but it would be a smart move >> to do some top soil tests. >>> I am thinking whether the use of lime - which is alkaline, is a good >> choice - both as a sacrificial coat on our building, and to possibly manage >> any ants with ideas of moving in. I too would like to encourage these >> amazing creatures to self build elsewhere. >>> Linda Royles >>> >>> Cob in the Community >>> T0208 3741033 >>> M07971881229 >>> >>> >>> On 19 Nov 2011, at 20:30, William Milmoe<wmilmoe at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Ant challenges >>>> >>>> I am interested in building with cob here in the Northwestern part of >> USA. >>>> One of my friends built a cob bench a few years ago and had to do major >>>> restoration this year because ants hollowed out the bench for living >>>> quarters. Has anyone else had this challenge? Any modifications >> required >>>> in our mostly wet then mostly dry climate to prevent ant move ins? >>>> >>>> Thank you so very much. >>>> >>>> Bill >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Coblist mailing list >>>> Coblist at deatech.com >>>> http://www.deatech.com/mailman/listinfo/coblist >>> Linda Royles >>> T0208 3741033 >>> M07971881229 >>> >>> >>> On 19 Nov 2011, at 20:30, William Milmoe<wmilmoe at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Ant challenges >>>> >>>> I am interested in building with cob here in the Northwestern part of >> USA. >>>> One of my friends built a cob bench a few years ago and had to do major >>>> restoration this year because ants hollowed out the bench for living >>>> quarters. Has anyone else had this challenge? Any modifications >> required >>>> in our mostly wet then mostly dry climate to prevent ant move ins? >>>> >>>> Thank you so very much. >>>> >>>> Bill >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Coblist mailing list >>>> Coblist at deatech.com >>>> http://www.deatech.com/mailman/listinfo/coblist >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Coblist mailing list >>> Coblist at deatech.com >>> http://www.deatech.com/mailman/listinfo/coblist >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 07:54:46 -0600 >> From: Mary Lou McFarland<louiethefifth at hotmail.com> >> To:<coblist at deatech.com> >> Subject: Re: [Cob] Ant Challenges >> Message-ID:<SNT120-W5008361308D35E1DD12CE2B9CB0 at phx.gbl> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> >> Borax will take out ants. I wonder if a borax wash over the plaster coat >> would do the trick. >> Mary Lou >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 06:06:08 -0800 (PST) >> From: Alessandra<alecaprara at yahoo.com.br> >> To: COB<coblist at deatech.com> >> Subject: [Cob] Enc: Ant Challenges >> Message-ID: >> <1321884368.62009.YahooMailNeo at web121701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >> >> >> >> ? >> >> Well, I know cinnamon and clove keep ants away. But I don't know how use >> them in the building. Mixing in the earth? Or in the wall covering?? >> This is really useful and smells good :) >> >> >> ? >> Alessandra Caprara >> M?dica Veterin?ria Homeopata >> Consultora Comportamental >> ? >> Cel: 11 71895282 >> email: alecaprara at yahoo.com.br >> msn: alecaprara at hotmail.com >> skype: alecaprara >> ? >> >> >> ________________________________ >> De: Mary Lou McFarland<louiethefifth at hotmail.com> >> Para: coblist at deatech.com >> Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 21 de Novembro de 2011 11:54 >> Assunto: Re: [Cob] Ant Challenges >> >> >> Borax will take out ants.? I wonder if a borax wash over the plaster coat >> would do the trick. >> Mary Lou ??? ??? ??? ? ??? ??? ? >> _______________________________________________ >> Coblist mailing list >> Coblist at deatech.com >> http://www.deatech.com/mailman/listinfo/coblist >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 10:17:52 -0500 >> From: Henry Raduazo<raduazo at cox.net> >> To: Mary Lou McFarland<louiethefifth at hotmail.com> >> Cc: coblist at deatech.com >> Subject: Re: [Cob] Ant Challenges >> Message-ID:<F97100F5-12AB-4477-8176-816D2B02D3E6 at cox.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> I have had trouble mostly with the cliff-dwelling bees, but I find that >> covering the cob wall with lime paint will discourage them. I have an >> unpainted sculpture in my lime-painted wall and the bee preference for the >> untreated mud is dramatic. I have a photo for anyone interested. >> >> Ed >> >> On Nov 21, 2011, at 8:54 AM, Mary Lou McFarland wrote: >> >>> Borax will take out ants. I wonder if a borax wash over the plaster >> coat would do the trick. >>> Mary Lou >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Coblist mailing list >>> Coblist at deatech.com >>> http://www.deatech.com/mailman/listinfo/coblist >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Coblist mailing list >> Coblist at deatech.com >> http://www.deatech.com/mailman/listinfo/coblist >> >> >> End of Coblist Digest, Vol 9, Issue 140 >> *************************************** >> > _______________________________________________ > Coblist mailing list > Coblist at deatech.com > http://www.deatech.com/mailman/listinfo/coblist > -- McGregor Alternative Technology Center "MAT" www.mat.org.za 023 625 1533 We need to be the change we wish to see in the world "Mohandas Ghandi" If you do not wish to receive mail from us please email unsubscribe in your subject.
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