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[Cob] Beginner with lots of stoneBarbara Roemiller roemiller at infostations.netMon Feb 4 15:21:25 CST 2008
HI Devon, It's a fine idea to build an ag.structure first,and great that you want to make use of native materials. While we've helped some others build their cob homes, we will include cob as part of a hybrid when we build. Straw is a much better insulator than cob, and that's a concern for our northern California location at about the 39th lat.line, and with a total annual Farenheit heating degree day figure of 4770. You might start by considering Ianto Evan's interest in very thickly plastered (really cobbed) straw walls as the ideal insulation/thermal mass sandwich. Have a look at many beautiful cob projects and his own house on Rob Pollacek's site, www.californiacob.com We live about four miles as the crow flies from most of the California Cob sites. I just talked to a friend this morning about Rob's house. His foundation/floor are apparently cold, as his plan to use hydronic heating is anathema to something in his earthen floor, perhaps the wax: the floor softens when the hydronic is used, so it's turned off. The friend down the road who told me that this morning is about to move into a lovely hybrid timberframe/cob/straw clay house her husband built. Their earthen floors are cold because neither the foundation nor the floor are insulated. The foundation is massive stones, cobbed and mortared together - pretty hard to insulate. They would probably use a rubble trench foundation with stone applied in order to provide a base that could be insulated. We will do a rubble trench with slip form for our hybrid, and the foundation and perimeter of the slab/earthen floor will be insulated, too. You might consider slip forming walls since you have a lot of stone - great thermal mass and could be combined with all that straw for a very cozy place. Slip forming is much less labor intensive than large stone placement,and not always such an aesthetic compromise. Slip forming the cob is much faster than the loaves method, too. It's all pretty labor intensive, but that's what most of us have more of. If you are in a seismic zone (and not much of California isn't), you'll want to consider how to approach the issue of stability and creating a monolithic foundation. Cob is not suitable for holding together stones, even large ones, in most seismic zones. Our neighbor's house is owner/builder permitted, and his foundation included lots of steel, drilled into his stones and attaching them to his concrete. We are in seismic zone 3. We'll have our foundation engineered, even if we build with an owner builder permit where such engineering is not required. (Actually, we hope to advance the cause a bit and plan to have engineering done not only for the foundation but for a loadbearing bale/hybrid house. The building department has assured us that they will permit a LB home with engineering. There's been a lot of alternative building in our county -Nevada County - so building inspectors don't look perplexed when we talk about these options.) Best of luck in using what's at hand wonderfully! Barbara
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